jukel123 9,453 Posted November 4, 2017 Report Share Posted November 4, 2017 (edited) I'm no scientist but I believe it is happening. Trump is a shit pretending it doesn't exist, probably got investments in fossil fuels. PS, Just watched some red admiral butterflies feeding on Sedum plant. It's November in Scotland ffs. Edited November 4, 2017 by jukel123 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rabbit Hunter 6,613 Posted November 4, 2017 Report Share Posted November 4, 2017 I think climate change is occurring naturally. I don't believe it's anything to do with burning fossil fuels etc. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 50,529 Posted November 4, 2017 Report Share Posted November 4, 2017 The planet has warmed up and cooled down forever. BUT, that said of course we are not helping matters. Like all things, the debate on climate change has (imho) been hijacked and used to exploit money (that old chestnut again!) There are massive lakes in China made up entirely of chemical waste as a by product to the mobile phone industry.......and yet the likes of Apple and Samsung are courted by politicians while at the same time ordinary people are handed surcharges in waste. The local council can’t wait to jump into bed with Tesco while at the same time slapping eye watering business rates on Local shops and yet if we were all eating local produce instead of Himalayan Llama steaks or South African Melons then that would help right ? but that would man having to take time to shop.......can’t have that, better to have you working till 7pm then quickly dive into a Tesco express.......there’s no revenue in making life affordable in terms of time and money. So once again, the debate is arse upwards and hypocritical in the extreme. So as much as I would respect someone who is genuinely worried about the planet, like everything else in this shit state of a world, the only one playing by the rules would be them !! 6 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kanny 21,723 Posted November 4, 2017 Report Share Posted November 4, 2017 Interesting little article http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2001/11/sun-waxes-and-wanes-so-does-climate Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisJones 7,975 Posted November 4, 2017 Report Share Posted November 4, 2017 We've been exacerbating the issue since the industrial revolution. It's going to take a disaster that kills millions before the sceptics are on board and even then it'll be Trump's Hillary's Bush's Obama's the muslims fault. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
secretagentmole 1,701 Posted November 4, 2017 Report Share Posted November 4, 2017 Man is responsible for less than 10% of the CO2 in the atmosphere. So if we stopped pumping out CO2, the planet will still be warming up! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisJones 7,975 Posted November 4, 2017 Report Share Posted November 4, 2017 12 minutes ago, secretagentmole said: Man is responsible for less than 10% of the CO2 in the atmosphere. So if we stopped pumping out CO2, the planet will still be warming up! Where's that figure from? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Francie 6,368 Posted November 4, 2017 Report Share Posted November 4, 2017 All scare tactics to get more money outa people, im not denying climate is changing, but its natural, thats what the science says, look at the ice caps for instance there getting larger, nature will be here long after were dead, as evo scientists say, the earth billions of years old? An your trying to tell me that us humans are making the climate change haha Ordinary joe soap will be taxed to the hilt, while the big coporations do f**k all. Plus the data an science shows the more co2 in atmosphere means more forests the trees an plants love it. Money racket as usual. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisJones 7,975 Posted November 4, 2017 Report Share Posted November 4, 2017 1 minute ago, Francie said: im not denying climate is changing, but its natural, thats what the science says, 3 Which science, mate? Not a YouTube montage either... an actual peer-reviewed science paper. I'm genuinely curious which ones everyone is reading. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Francie 6,368 Posted November 4, 2017 Report Share Posted November 4, 2017 Have a look on nasss own website chris, there saying both caps have got larger, but the earth is still warming lol. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dave88 1,565 Posted November 4, 2017 Report Share Posted November 4, 2017 (edited) 18 minutes ago, ChrisJones said: Which science, mate? Not a YouTube montage either... an actual peer-reviewed science paper. I'm genuinely curious which ones everyone is reading. A recent report says we are more than likely the cause https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.usatoday.com/story/829783001/ Edited November 4, 2017 by dave88 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Francie 6,368 Posted November 4, 2017 Report Share Posted November 4, 2017 https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://phys.org/news/2017-08-pair-global-natural.amp&ved=0ahUKEwjsrvmmoaXXAhXCPBoKHdAWCZwQFgg5MAg&usg=AOvVaw2duh8pa0TlhHce56lkLXro&cf=1 There you go chris, might not suffice for ye but there you go mate. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisJones 7,975 Posted November 4, 2017 Report Share Posted November 4, 2017 6 minutes ago, Francie said: Have a look on nasss own website chris, there saying both caps have got larger, but the earth is still warming lol. NASSS? The North American Society For Serbian Studies? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dave88 1,565 Posted November 4, 2017 Report Share Posted November 4, 2017 1 minute ago, Francie said: https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://phys.org/news/2017-08-pair-global-natural.amp&ved=0ahUKEwjsrvmmoaXXAhXCPBoKHdAWCZwQFgg5MAg&usg=AOvVaw2duh8pa0TlhHce56lkLXro&cf=1 There you go chris, might not suffice for ye but there you go mate. My article is newer than that Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Francie 6,368 Posted November 4, 2017 Report Share Posted November 4, 2017 Forests love co2, so whats the problem with it? Nature sorts everything out bit of arrogance to say otherwise. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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